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Cochrane: enda mer fanteri om farlige vitaminer
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Written by Kjetil Dreyer   
Apr 21, 2008 at 12:00 AM
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Vi kan lese i media i disse dager: "Vitaminpiller virker ikke ", "Vitamintilskudd forkorter livet", "Vitaminpiller forlenger ikke livet", "Vitaminpiller kan gi økt dødsrisiko". Dette budskapet har sitt utgangspunkt i en fersk rapport fra Goran Bjelakovic og The Cochrane Collaboration. Hva skal man si om det? Det er tredje gang på få år at Bjelacovics produserer en slik misvisende rapport, basert på de samme data. Ønsker man å forfekte det syn at vitaminer er uten helseverdi - og dessuten farlige, er rapporten av topp kvalitet. Men den er fullstendig misvisende.

 

 

Her er et knippe norske nyheter, med utgangspunkt i rapporten. Hørt det før? Senest på våren 2007? Da kom forrige rapport, basert på samme data, og med samme skremmende konklusjon: Vitaminer er farlige, og har ingen effekt på helsa.


Vitaminpiller virker ikke

Publisert  16.04.2008 13.05 // Oppdatert  17.04.2008 09.45

http://www.tv2.no/nyhetene/innenriks/article1763001.ece

 

ABC nyheter

Vitamintilskudd forkorter livet

Onsdag, 16.04.08 kl. 18:09

http://www.abcnyheter.no/node/64953

 

Forskning.no

Vitaminpiller forlenger ikke livet

16.04.08.

http://www.forskning.no/artikler/2008/april/179458

 

Adresseavisa

Vitaminpiller kan gi økt dødsrisiko

16. april

http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/utenriks/article1065856.ece
 

Dette er feil.

2007-rapporten er grundig tilbakevist fra mange hold, slik også den først rapporten rundt 2004 er tilbakevist.

På samme måte kan det lett demonstreres at denne siste rapporten er biased, som det heter: Resultatet fremkommer gjennom manipulering av dataene. Man tar ut det man ikke vil ha, og får så den konklusjon man ønsker - uansett virkeligheten.

Noen tar til motmæle. Heldigvis. 

Her er ett eksempel:

KONTRABESKJED fra Dagbladet:

http://www.dagbladet.no/dinside/2008/04/18/532928.html#comments

 

SkyNews:

Row Over ''Flawed'' Vitamin Report

Updated:16:24, Wednesday April 16, 2008

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91251-1313009,00.html

Herfra tar vi følgende utsnitt:

Den engelske bransjeorganisasjonen HFMA Health Food Manufacturers'' Association er provosert, og sier at studien er fundamentalt og systematisk feilaktig. 

"The analysis focused on one broad category of study, then evaluated just 67 of the 748 studies that could be included in the review. Therefore, the paper''s conclusions are drawn on less than 9% of available evidence. In no way can this review be considered comprehensive."

Den uavhengige ernæringsterapeuten Dr Marilyn Glenville er like hardtslående:

"This report needs to be taken with quite a large pinch of salt," sier hun, "First, it''s a re-analysis of an old trial that came out last February - and there was widespread criticism of it then - and secondly it''s selective in what it reveals. For example, it ignored the 405 studies where no deaths were reported and when it did look at the others it included, it did not eliminate those that were completely unconnected - accidents, car crashes, etc - so they could not be seen as relevant."

Det britiske mattilsynet FSA, Food Standards Agency, hadde ikke da artikkelen ble skrevet, sett studien og kom bare med sine sedvanlige kommentar:

Folk flest kan få i seg det de trenger ved å spise en variert og balansert diett. Hvis forbrukerne velger å ta tilskudd, er det viktig at de er informert, og det kan være ønskelig å konsultere med en lege.
 

Hørt det før?
Alt vi trenger, er å spise en variert og balansert diett. Konsulter med legen din (som i Norge har maksimalt tre dager ernæringslære i studiet sitt, ifølge hva en nyutdannet lege opplyste Fritt Helsevalg i mars 2008.) 

I dag er det neppe praktisk mulig for en norsk forbruker å få i seg tilstrekkelig av de nødvendige vitaminer, mineraler og sporstoffer som behøves for optimal helse gjennom maten vi kjøper i butikkene våre.

Og hvor mye trenger vi? Forskrift om kosttilskudd forteller oss hvor mye politikerne gir oss tillatelse til å kjøpe (maksimal dose). Det antatte behovet slik det fremsettes av matmyndighetene, er lavere enn dette.

Men det kan ikke være tvil om at for optimal helse behøves i mange tilfeller langt høyere doser. 

Og legen? Hvor mange leger kan i praksis gi deg råd om ernæring, for ikke å snakke om å måle næringsstoffstatus i kroppen din? Er det rimelig å søke råd om ernæring hos en profesjon som generelt - med hederlige unntak - sier at ernæring og helse knapt henger sammen, og at vitaminer og mineraler er farlige?

Alliance for Natural Health
Fritt Helsevalg er medlem av Alliance for Natural health (ANH) av god grunn. ANH er en av de få organisasjoner som Fritt helsevalg har kontakt med, som virkelig tar til motmæle, og gjennom sitt motto "Good Science, Good Law" arbeider aktivt for å motvirke angrepene fra anti-kosttilskuddshold.

Nedenfor gjengis ANHs pressemelding i sakens anledning. Vi skulle gjerne ha oversatt den til norsk, men må bare medgi at vi ikke har kapasitet. Så det blir engelsk, i hvert fall i første omgang.

Er du enig i hva Fritt helsevalg sier, og ANH sier nedenfor, så støtt vårt arbeid. Bli medlem i Fritt Helsevalg. Og gå til ANHs hjemmesider og donér noen hundrelapper til deres arbeid.

Er du innstilt på naturlig helse og helsefrihet, har du innsett at våre hjemlige helse- og matmyndigheter ikke ivaretar dine interesser. Det er nødvendig å handle selv. FHV og ANH er to muligheter.

Ring/e-mail også din stortingsrepresentant, og fortell hva du mener.

Selve Cochrane-rapporten - "Antioxidant supplements for prevention of mortality in healthy participants and patients with various diseases" av Bjelakovic G, Nikolova D, Gluud LL, Simonetti RG, Gluud C - kan du få fra Fritt Helsevalg i pdf. Send oss en e-post.

 

Eller les den direkte på Cochrane-samarbeidets egen nettside:
http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab007176.html

 

BAD SCIENCE + BAD MEDIA (+ VESTED INTERESTS) = CONFUSED CONSUMERS

 

The latest sleight of hand from the anti-vitamin lobby 

 

16 April 2008

 

Robert Verkerk PhD [1] and Dr Damien Downing [2]

 

1 Executive & Scientific Director, Alliance for Natural Health

2 Medical Director, Alliance for Natural Health

www.anhcampaign.org

Today sees the release of yet another "study" led by Serbian scientist and "visiting researcher" at Copenhagen University Hospital, Goran Bjelakovic. His name is now synonymous with vitamin meta-analyses (studies of other studies) which appear to show that vitamin supplements either don't work or end up increasing your risk of death. Two recent bursts of negative international headlines on vitamins supplements (1 October 2004 and 28 February 2007) followed releases of previous research papers (see asterisked articles in Reference list below).

What consumers need to know and are not being told is:

1. This isn't new. This is not a new study! It is a scientific rehash of the very same data sets (barring one) that led to the previous negative studies - and these methodologies tell us nothing about the way in which high quality combinations of nutrient supplements work! For a previous critique on why the methods used are irrelevant, see a detailed analysis by Dr Steve Hickey, a member of the ANH Scientific Expert Committee: http://www.alliance-natural-health.org/_docs/ANHwebsiteDoc_270.pdf

2. This isn't research. This is a re-analysis of studies that have been conducted and reported on previously, led by a man at a computer. In this case, a group of men and women seemingly with a known axe to grind, who have never produced a study favourable to nutrient supplementation, which is itself statistically unlikely unless you have a bias.

3. This isn't meaningful. When you select or reject studies on criteria that only mean something to statisticians, and ignore important things like duration, how long the study ran for - which ranged from 28 days to 14 years - your findings are immediately meaningless. Even the huge difference in dose of supplements between different studies - Vitamin E ranging from 10 to 5000 units daily, for instance - they didn't deem important. 

4. This applies only to synthetic forms of vitamins (as produced by the pharmaceutical industry). The authors of this latest Cochrane review state: "The present review does not assess antioxidant supplements for treatment of specific diseases (tertiary prevention), antioxidant supplements for patients with demonstrated specific needs of antioxidants, or the effects of antioxidants contained in fruits or vegetables." This shows that the study has no relevance to natural sources of vitamins and minerals or antioxidants sourced from plants (e.g. flavanoids, anthocyanins, sulforaphanes,  salvestrols/resveratrol, etc.), which are included in many of the leading-edge natural health supplements claiming potent antioxidant activity.

5. Natural vitamins and minerals are lifesavers. There is extensive scientific evidence that higher intakes of vitamins in the forms and combinations consumed in the diet substantially reduce risk of killer diseases such as cancer and heart disease. In fact, it is this research (some of which is referenced in the introduction to both the JAMA and Cochrane papers) that has stimulated pharmaceutical companies to undertake research on pharmaceutical-grade, synthetic forms of supplements, which they manufacture. There are good reasons why this pharma-sponsored research has generally yielded disappointing results. These reasons have been considered in many previous rebuttals. See also: http://www.alliance-natural-health.org/_docs/ANHwebsiteDoc_231.pdf

6. Over the top on synthetics! The studies included in the latest meta-analysis rely on very high dosages of pharmaceutical-grade, synthetic forms of supplements manufactured by the pharmaceutical industry. The dosages used are typically much greater than those recommended on the labels of food or dietary supplement products. In most countries, the dosages used in the trials would be considered ‘medicinal' by regulatory authorities and therefore would not legally be allowed for food or dietary supplements. 

7. Two bites at the cherry. The anti-vitamin lobby has managed to benefit, yet again, from more anti-vitamin headlines, just by republishing the same study on previous studies - again! Bjelakovic's latest assault, published today through the Cochrane Review system, is more or less a dead ringer for a paper by the very same authors, published last year (28 February 2007) in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA). Extensive international media followed the 2007 JAMA paper, including a front page article in the Times newspaper, which told consumers that vitamin pills could cause early death. Today's Cochrane review relies on 67 studies rather than the 68 used in the JAMA paper. In evaluating studies for inclusion, the authors omitted a massive 405 potentially eligible studies BECAUSE there were no deaths in the studies!! Another 69 studies were excluded because they weren't randomised controlled trials! Most of the trials used pertain to already sick people being given very high dose, synthetic, isolated nutrients for relatively short periods - they therefore have no relevance to the vast majority of vitamin consumers! 

Vitamin consumers are smart

The authors, the editorial boards of the journals that so readily accommodate the papers, as well as the media which then spin the findings, appear unable to bear the thought that consumers know what they are doing. 

They forget the power of experience and observation, and that so many people taking these products have experienced startling, positive results. If you read a headline in a newspaper relaying some anti-vitamin hype from an anti-supplement research group in Denmark and you, and your friends and family around you, have all experienced positive results with supplements, would you stop taking your supplements?

Have they forgotten the significance of the countless findings from observational and epidemiological studies, which demonstrate strong correlations between high intakes of natural sources of nutrients and substantially reduced risks of chronic disease? 

Do they not realise that their failure to duplicate these results with synthetic vitamins might be more down to the differences between natural and synthetic, as well as the non-applicability of their methods, rather than the fact that their meta-analyses have now disproven what has been observed scientifically over decades?!

They forget, it seems, that most people are already, or are fast becoming, disillusioned with evidence-based medicine (EBM), which is now generally agreed, scientifically, to be the third or fourth leading cause of death in western societies.
 

‘Evidence-based medicine' is becoming irrelevant 

It seems also that more and more people no longer wish to worship at the altar of EBM, the most important component of which is the randomised clinical trial (RCT). RCTs, the gold standard for EBM, fail, for reasons that are becoming increasingly clear, to amply demonstrate or help elucidate the complex responses that humans show when they choose to engage in natural systems of healthcare. 

Science is able to answer many questions, but not when its tools are used either by those with narrowed minds or those with an insatiable desire to control healthcare through the use of patented drugs based on new-to-nature molecules.

Cochrane - what are you playing at? 

It has to be asked what the Cochrane Collaboration is doing, allowing, endorsing and indeed promoting unscientific, invalid rehashes such as this. They did it for Bjelakovic's 2004 paper in the Lancet, and they've done it again for his 2007 paper in JAMA. Might they now be under the influence of the most potent force in orthodox healthcare - the drug companies? You may recall that Cochrane were supposed to be the only guys you really could trust....

REFERENCES 

**Bjelakovic G, Nikolova D, Gluud LL, Simonetti RG, Gluud C. Mortality in randomized trials of antioxidant supplements for primary and secondary prevention: systematic review and meta-analysis. JAMA. 2007 Feb 28; 297(8):842-57. Review.

Bjelakovic G, Nagorni A, Nikolova D, Simonetti RG, Bjelakovic M, Gluud C. Meta-analysis: antioxidant supplements for primary and secondary prevention of colorectal adenoma. Aliment Pharmacol Ther. 2006 Jul 15;24(2):281-91. Review.

Bjelakovic G, Nikolova D, Simonetti RG, Gluud C. Antioxidant supplements for preventing gastrointestinal cancers. Cochrane Database Syst Rev. 2004 Oct 18;(4):CD004183. Review. 

*Bjelakovic G, Nikolova D, Simonetti RG, Gluud C. Antioxidant supplements for prevention of gastrointestinal cancers: a systematic review and meta-analysis. Lancet. 2004 Oct 2-8;364(9441):1219-28. Review.

 

** Paper on which latest Cochrane review is based; negative findings created wide media interest

* Paper which created extensive media interest and formed basis of Cochrane review published in the same month.

=======================================================

 

Les også hva Mike Adams skriver:

Vitamins A, C and E increase mortality! (and other nonsense from the realm of junk science)

http://www.naturalnews.com/023034.html

Grafisk: hvor farlige er kosttilskudd?

 



   

Hvor farlige er kosttilskudd? Dette bildet gir vel en pekepinn. Se nederst på rangstigen i motsetning til øverst til høyre.

 

Linker til noen internasjonale artikler om saken:


Norge:

"Vitaminpiller virker ikke"

Publisert  16.04.2008 13.05 // Oppdatert  17.04.2008 09.45

http://www.tv2.no/nyhetene/innenriks/article1763001.ece

 

ABC nyheter

Vitamintilskudd forkorter livet

Onsdag, 16.04.08 kl. 18:09

http://www.abcnyheter.no/node/64953

 

Forskning.no

Vitaminpiller forlenger ikke livet

16.04.08.

http://www.forskning.no/artikler/2008/april/179458

   

Adresseavisa

Vitaminpiller kan gi økt dødsrisiko

16. april

http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/utenriks/article1065856.ece

   

Generelt/historisk:

gjør et google-søk på "Bjelakovic vitamin"

 

Linker til noen internasjonale artikler om saken:
 

Dagens nyheter (Sverige):

"Vitaminpiller farliga för hälsan"

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=597&a=761247 

 

The Independent:

"Vitamin supplements ''do us no good and may be harmful''"


The Telegraph:

"Vitamin pills ''increase risk of early death''"


The Times on line:

"Official health warning on risk of vitamin supplements" 

 

The Scotsman:

"Vitamin pills may do more harm than good"
 

Irish health:

"Antioxidants won''t prolong your life"

http://www.irishhealth.com/index.html?level=4&id=13400

 

 CNN.com/health:

"Research: Vitamins may increase risk of death"

Selve Cochrane-rapporten - "Antioxidant supplements for prevention of mortality in healthy participants and patients with various diseases" av Bjelakovic G, Nikolova D, Gluud LL, Simonetti RG, Gluud C - kan du få fra Fritt Helsevalg i pdf. Send oss en e-post.

Eller les den direkte på Cochrane-samarbeidets egen nettside:
http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab007176.html

Hva sier Cochrane-samarbeidet om seg selv?

 

The Cochrane Library

... the best single source of reliable evidence about the effects of health care

 

Kilde: FrittHelsevalg.org


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